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Joyner Lucas – I’m Not Racist: An Appreciation and Critique

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  1. Mark Mollenkof says:

    Thank you Ameen for your insights. You have given me some things to think about. Thomas you have also presented some good arguments. Thank you Ameen for clarifying your position on being truthful as opposed to being right. The truth of the gospel is always what will set us free. Jeff and AD, where in the article does Ameen say that black people cannot be racisits? I have heard that argument on many occasions but didn’t see it in this article. Please be careful with making assumptions and if you see it in the article please correct me. Ameen please keep writing and serving. Looking forward to seeing more from you. Keep the conversation going even though it must be difficult. It’s not always easy to hear, as a white person, but oh so important!

  2. Patrick Havens says:

    Thank you for clarifying what I often don’t realize. At the core and history 50/50 issue. I suppose though that on the surface some feel hatred for white people and could easily thinks it’s now an equal struggle, but we can’t neglect the history. I’ve been reading Fortunes of Africa and realized the impact slavery has made in that continent. So sad. Lots of blacks, Muslims, and later whites kept it going and justified it. I’m afraid me and others are often too self-protective to admit how we’ve failed and the lasting psychological and cultural Impact our history has had on a people in the US. A similar point will he made with women who have lived under years of fearing aggressive males and avoiding harassment, which also is a very deep seated inner battle that few men may even realize they feel and suffer consequences from it. Help Jesus, you’re our only hope.

    1. Patrick Havens says:

      Sorry – the first two sentences are not clear. I meant thanks for speaking that the core and history of racism shows that it is not a 50/50 issue. It’s a deeper problem and blame on the white majority since they were active in this injustice.

  3. Thomas W. says:

    Mr. Hudson,

    I believe you are right that correction and truth telling are important. I hope you can hear some of that from me today.

    I know that it must be burdensome and tiring to feel like a “mule” as you put it. What I would remind you of and hope you’ll meditate on is that Christ did not consider equality something to be grasped, but gave up heaven (being God) to become a “mule”. To suffer, to die for a people that said “I’m not racist”. He carried that burden for us, despite us.

    I say that to encourage you onward and in hopes that you’ll forgo worrying so much about being right about white privilege, racism, and anything else along those lines. Being right about the racial tropes, and attempting to convict white people won’t get you very far with those you have no relationship with and refuse to validate them as people.

    Think about what kind of statement “I’m not a racist” is. It’s a defensive statement. Defenses are up. White people don’t hear that these days simply from well meaning and reconcile seeking blacks. They hear that they are racists from all over. (Yes, Jesus confronted the Pharisees, but Jesus also knew their hearts and is Jesus. He wasn’t trying to persuade them necessarily to reconcile or to repent. It has its time and place, but what are you really after here? Being right?).

    What I hope you’ll realize is that it’s as much a barrier to relationship and conversation as you feel when the racial tropes are brought up for you as it is for whites to be implicated in racism and racists policies (esp if they are post 1980s). How defensive are you when someone talks about almost 70% of African Americans are being born into single parent families? Where does your mind go? Does it get defensive? Does it call it a “racial trope”? How can you better look past the racism to persuade others to hear what you want to say?

    If you’re married, you probably have begun to learn that being right isn’t the most important thing to change or growing in such a relationship. There are times for it, but the most progress one makes in relationships with their spouse is from the ability to listen and validate their concerns. It lowers defenses, builds trust, and opens the conversation to correction and truth, largely because we’re treating them as equal people that have the same value. It’s hard, and it makes us give up ourselves to do it, but that’s entirely what you’re expecting and wanting from white people, and whether or not they ever give it, be above reproach in continuing to live toward them (and others) as you want them to live toward you. The Lord will be their judge all the same if there’s no reciprocation.
    As christians, we have to be “mules” toward each other if we want anything to change. What happened yesterday has to be forgiven, and not held against. “Privilege” isn’t something to covet. We don’t have to tear down others or declare our rightness in order to move forward as brothers and sisters.

    1. ADAM ROBLES says:

      Thomas – as someone who thinks about these issues alot I sometimes get the feeling that I have heard it all. This comment is not only extremely true (in my opinion), but also has brought a perspective that I havent heard before. Thanks so much for this thoughtful response. It has given me much to think about in how I respond to these types of articles. Seriously. Thank you. Do you comment alot on this site? If so, i may have to pursue the comments sections a bit more. 🙂

      1. Thomas W. says:

        Adam,

        Your words are too kind. I hope others receive it as you have. I’m always afraid of being too blunt or direct.

        I’ve responded to a couple of other articles, but only more recently.

    2. Ameen Hudson says:

      Thomas,

      I really appreciate your comment, brother and your desire to challenge the article. But I can’t help to see it as a bit impetuous in regards to judging my intention. It seems as if though you have made up your mind that my desire was simply to be “right” about racism and injustice at the hands of white people. Of course in my article I want to be accurate in regards to history but this isn’t just about being “right.” I have had honest conversations with white brothers and sisters for a while now in regards to racism and justice so I understand the need to “listen” on both sides. However, listening doesn’t negate truth-telling and truth-telling doesn’t mean that one just desires to be right in an argument. I’m much more concerned with winning the person instead of the argument. However, truth has to be told in order for people to be won in truth and in order for repentance to take place.

      Jesus set aside His privilege as God in order to redeem us sinful people but this does not mean that we no longer fight for dignity that is stamped on us by his image. In fact, Him reconciling all things in his death calls for such dignity to be upheld and fight for in ALL men. And sacrifice in doing so – even if that means the sacrifice of our very lives – this is being like Jesus.

      Much love, brother.

      God bless.

      1. Thomas W. says:

        Mr. Hudson,

        I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.

        I’m not after assuming or judging your intentions. I believe you are well meaning and express good intentions. And I also agree that there is a time for truth telling. In order to truth tell, we must believe we are in the right. I was more asking than being impetuous in order to encourage your own reflection and to know from you directly, rather than assume.

        My concern is that in many conversations, esp on a topic like racism, is that we all see our selves as the person in the chair. We see the other side as the caricature, spouting stereotypes. We believe we have the facts and experience and the other side is lacking.

        The reality is that we are most often the guy standing up. (And by we, I mean all human beings.) We are irrational creatures by fallen default.

        Whereas there is certainly truth in whites being responsible for the treatment of blacks historically and today, the pursuit of repentance from a stereotyped group while assigning a measuring stick of blame is where you begin to stumble out of the realm of truth telling. There becomes subjectivity, ambiguity in who the target group is, and more so what must be done.

        This makes it easier and easier to believe we’re the one in the chair. (Neither ultimately are).

  4. Jeff says:

    Can black people be racists? Serious question. The author of this article, and many black friends & neighbors I’ve talked to, claim that the answer is, “absolutely not.” And that answer makes absolutely no sense to me.

    1. AD says:

      Jeff. Of course they can. The Bible talks about the sin of partiality that can be committed by the powerful and powerless alike. Most people who would embrace the view of this article would say no, though, which frankly commits the sin of partiality and is ironically a racist view.

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