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Safe at Starbucks?

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  1. Roger Vincent says:

    I am sorry but I do not resonate with the two black men. Starbucks has had many blacks in their establishment and nothing has arose. We have an isolated incident, and we want to cry, Foul!? I am sorry, but the track record speaks for itself. I believe there is just a little too much projecting going on in this article.

  2. Jeremy says:

    Every communicator, interpreter, author, Christian MUST have at least the desire to start from accurate premises.

    Here’s a link to the facts that one can use as a starting point.

  3. Thomas W. says:

    I’ll be honest. I have a hard time agreeing with the entirety of this article. Mainly because of the level of assumptions about Starbucks and how we react to single incidents.

    As a disclaimer, I’m not a coffee drinker and I don’t care much for Starbucks. I can’t tell you what a pour-over is. I feel entirely out of place at a coffee shop (for different reasons), but if you write an article in which you implicate bets on assumptions you can’t know anything about in reality (as in what they’ve done for meetings over the last couple decades…), I find that part of the problem with modern culture’s responses. And as Christians I think our response has to be better than that. More patient, more rational especially with viral events before we engage. Lest we only feed the problem and a continuance of over reaction.

    Considering that Starbucks has cups with a label that says “racetogether” on it and wanted to help spark the conversation post Michael Brown incident with that program, I would take the bet that they have had discussions on how to broaden their appeal and broaden coffee to all demographics and ethnicities if nothing else. But they have been pursuing that conversation and change. Even if that and other attempts are failures, it still shows they are trying and that your perception of them is judgmental. What happened at that location, could have happened anywhere to any business anytime there’s a person who responds poorly, and in a prejudiced way.

    But that’s why you’d get an eye roll from a white person. Picking single incidents like this and then trying to extrapolate it to systemic injustice is not helping where there is actual systemic injustice. Coffee shops market to coffee drinkers. It’s entirely okay if African Americans don’t drink coffee.

    I don’t blame African Americans if they feel out of place with hipsters and white women ordering ridiculous concoctions of coffee, but that stereotyping and assumptions isn’t any better when it comes to our own prejudices. I don’t expect a coffee shop to change their atmosphere they strive for, which is conducive to work and conversation, because I don’t fit in with hipsters. They aren’t excluding me. Should I care if they market to me at all? Why?

    I would encourage you to rewrite this article and exclude your bets and assumptions of others. Especially if you have problems with the assumptions and stereotypes that are generated toward African Americans. The stereotyping is just feeding the problems.

  4. William Butterfield says:

    Hello brother,

    I believe you opened up some broader questions that I believe carry a greater weight and responsibility.

    We are allowing our culture to drive all ministry ideas outside of the church and I believe in some cases absent of the church. However my concern is that the underlying issue falls with our leaders.

    You mentioned a historical perspective of how the barbershop used to be where we would have our conversation. Again, even the barbershops, not put all in the same box, but majority fall in line now with the social and cultural norms meaning the conversation is the same language as most of the music they listen to.

    Why am I saying this? I am saying this because it always the same narrative when discrimination happeneds. When we are targeted. When we are treated like animals.

    I believe you have some of these convictions as you have mentioned the lack of church work in the church, and lack of family time. My conflict is that 1 I don’t see articles on this very issue of the call for leaders in and out of the church. 2, what is the solution for racial reconciliation if coffee shops are not seen as “neutral, and 3, what is the objective of such coffee shops in black communities and do they do more harm than good?

    Can we place Starbucks in urban context and black neighborhoods, and can we do this without the effect of our own selves ( black people ) segregating each other and from our brothers of other races?

    Thank you for your time and consideration

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